Development of an automated method for mapping overlapping talk, applied to the Microsoft Teams transcripts of 34 project meetings in ten series at a global technology company. About 52 people took part, recorded in July and August 2021.
Three project groupsAbout 52 people in three project groups held regular project and status meetings by video.
34 video meetingsTen meeting series were recorded, with automatic transcripts that label each speaker and time each utterance.
Patterns found by handThe authors first identified overlap patterns by eye and with conversation analysis in some of their own meetings.
Rules applied to allThose patterns became rules, applied automatically to all 34 meetings without anyone reading what was said.
BThe method
De-identify transcriptsA custom application removes participants' identities and keeps who spoke when.
Mark turnsSpeech lasting 3 seconds or more counts as a turn.
Set aside tiny overlapsOverlaps and gaps under 0.24 seconds, an estimated timing delay, are too short to judge. These were 9% of the data.
Classify each overlapEach overlap is matched to a pattern by its timing, such as a long overlap at a turn's start or a repeated overlap.
Count outcomesFor each pattern, the method counts how often the speaker kept the turn or someone else took over.
CWhat the study found
Reading intent from timingwhat speaker timing alone could and could not show
•In the authors' own meetings, the median turn lasted about 2.4 seconds.The median is the middle value. Talk was fast paced, and the transcription produced many utterances of one or two words.
•From timing alone, a long overlap at a turn's start strongly signalled a bid for the floor.Some overlap patterns could be classed with reasonable confidence from timing and speaker labels, without the words.
•From timing alone, a repeated overlap could be a floor bid or a supportive uh huh.A supportive uh huh is a backchannel, a short listener response. Timing without the words cannot always show what an overlap is doing.
Keeping or ceding the floorodds across all 34 meetings
•In 34 video meetings, speakers nobody talked over kept talking about twice as often as handing over.On average, 63.51% of such turns continued and 31.2% passed to someone else.
•In 34 video meetings, speakers talked over once became almost as likely to cede as to continue.Ceding the turn to the person who overlapped stayed slightly less likely than carrying on.
•In 34 video meetings, repeated overlapping by one person made a takeover likelier than the speaker continuing.On average, 19.57% of such turns ended in a takeover, against 12.00% where the speaker carried on. Some repeated overlaps may be failed bids for the floor.
Individual stylesone meeting series, and the limits of the data
•In one meeting series, participants differed sharply in keeping their turn when talked over.Those who kept their turn after one overlap were not those who kept it under repeated overlaps. The paper suggests this points to individual turn-taking profiles.
•The authors describe these results as promising but initial, from a small dataset.The results need validating with a larger sample. Transcript timing limits accuracy, so very small overlaps and gaps could not be judged.
DKey takeaway
Speaker timing in transcripts can map who keeps or cedes the floor without reading the words. Timing alone may not tell cooperative from competitive overlap.
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Abstract
Video meetings are notorious for difficulties with conversational turn-taking, which has impacts on inclusion and outcomes. We present a scalable automatic process to categorize turn-taking patterns in remote meetings based on eyes-off analysis of meeting transcripts. Drawing on a series of remote meetings (10 series, 34 total meetings) recorded in July-August 2021 by employees of a global technology company, we identified and parametrized patterns of cooperative and competitive overlaps of turns. The results show initial success characterizing people’s behaviours as either likely to continue or cede turns based on either the amount of overlap that they produce during other’s turns or the amount of overlap they experience in their own turns. With further development and validation, this method could be used to measure inclusion in remote and hybrid meetings.
Research brief
By Eleni Margariti, Sean Rintel, Brendan Murphy, and Abigail Sellen.
Takeaway: Transcript timing alone can partly map turn-taking in video meetings, showing who keeps or cedes the floor when talked over. But cooperative overlaps (backchannels like 'uh huh') and competitive bids for the floor can look alike, because timing without content cannot show what an overlap is doing.
Why this matters
What was known
Turn-taking has long been quantified, but mostly from audio corpora or small controlled experiments, and often without considering privacy constraints. most prior work focuses on audio conversations, builds upon speech and audio datasets [19, 21] or reflects on controlled experiments in a limited number of meetings(§2.2, p. 2)
What this paper adds
What is new is the input and the safeguard. Ordinary, de-identified Microsoft Teams transcripts are processed automatically, so turn-taking can be studied across an organisation's real meetings without audio recordings and without anyone reading what was said. (§2.2, p. 2)
Who it matters to
Organisations wanting insight into meeting practices and inclusion, and researchers building meeting analytics for remote and hybrid meetings. Meeting analytics may assist organisations improve meeting practices by providing insights on turn-taking behaviour.(§1, p. 1)
Research question
How can cooperative competitive overlaps be automatically identified based on eyes-off processing of meeting transcripts?
Method and data
Design
Development of an automated process. Overlap patterns were first identified visually and with conversation-analytic methods on some of the authors' own meetings, then parametrised from turn-length statistics and applied automatically to the full dataset.
Setting
Regular project/status meetings held on Microsoft Teams in a global technology company, using Teams' automatic speaker-attributed, time-stamped transcripts, processed by a custom application that de-identified participants.
Participants / data
A convenience sample of three project groups, n∼52 participants. 10 meeting series, 34 meetings, recorded July-August 2021.
Analysis
Descriptive statistics of turn, overlap and overtake durations. Turns parametrised as speech of 3s or more. Overlaps and gaps below 0.24s (an estimated return delay) excluded as indeterminate. Probabilities of continuing or ceding a turn under different overlap patterns.
Findings
Meetings move fast. In some of the authors' own Teams meetings, used to develop the method, the median transcribed turn lasted under two and a half seconds (a fast-paced conversation). The transcription service also produced many very short utterances of one or two words. #
(§4.1, p. 3)
Timing cannot always reveal intent. Working from timing and speaker labels alone, some overlap patterns could be classed with reasonable confidence. For example, a long overlap at the start of a turn strongly indicates competition for the floor. Others stayed ambiguous: #
“Pattern 6, a repeated overlap, may be a competitive attempt to take a turn or a cooperative backchannel.”
Uninterrupted speakers usually carry on. Across all 34 meetings, a speaker whom nobody talked over was about twice as likely to keep talking as to hand over to someone else. #
(§4.2, p. 6)
One overlap changes the odds. When one other participant talked over a speaker once, the speaker became almost as likely to cede the turn to that person as to continue, with ceding slightly less likely. #
“This illustrates that the impact of a single overlap is significant.”
Persistent overlapping makes a takeover more likely. When one person talked over a speaker repeatedly within the same turn, that person taking over became more likely than the speaker carrying on. Such repeated overlaps may be bids for the floor, some of them rejected. #
“This case includes a potential attempt to take turn, and whether an overtake is achieved or not.”
Hints of individual turn-taking styles. In one meeting series, participants differed sharply. Those most likely to keep their turn when talked over once were not the same as those who kept it under repeated overlaps. Consistent differences like these point towards individual turn-taking profiles. #
“In the case of multiple overlaps occurring (Figure 3 C), the same participants presented the opposite behaviour, with P3 always abandoning turn”
Questions this paper answers
Can software detect interruptions in video meetings without anyone reading what was said?
Partly. The method uses only the timing and speaker labels in automatic meeting transcripts, never their content, keeping it privacy-preserving and scalable. These alone revealed recurring overlap patterns and their effect on who held the floor. Timing alone cannot always tell a supportive overlap from a bid to take over. (See §4.1, p. 3; §4.2, p. 6; §4.2, p. 6.)
Is talking over someone always an interruption?
No. Conversation analysts distinguish cooperative overlaps, such as 'mm' or 'yeah', which show attention or agreement, from competitive ones that take the floor. Repeated overlaps can be either (encouragement or insistent bidding for a turn), so the two have to be modelled together. (See §4.1, p. 3.)
Do people have their own styles of handling being talked over?
It appears so, though the evidence is thin. In one meeting series, the participant most likely to keep talking after a single overlap always gave up the turn under repeated overlaps, and also talked over others most. Whether such turn-taking profiles hold across meetings needs a much larger dataset. (See §4.2, p. 5.)
Quantitative results
Measure
Result
Where
Dataset
10 series, 34 total meetings
Abstract, p. 1
Estimated return delay; overlaps and gaps below it excluded
∼0.24s; 9% of all data
§3.2, p. 3
Turn length in the initial meetings
Median=2.38s, Mean=4.37s, Sd=5.146
§4.1, p. 3
Overtakes, and overtakes with a determined overlap (3s turn size)
18%; 15%
§4.2, p. 4
No overlap: continuing the turn vs letting someone take over
Mean= 63.51% vs Mean= 31.2%
§4.2, p. 6
Repeated overlaps by one person: overtake vs turn continues vs another speaker takes over
Mean =19.57% vs Mean=12.00% vs Mean= 2.63%
§4.2, p. 6
Contributions and implications
The method lays a basis for assessing meeting inclusion from metrics such as overtakes with overlap and rejected attempts to take a turn. This work provides the basis for assessing meeting inclusion based on a combination of metrics(§5, p. 7)
Possible profiles of inclusive and non-inclusive participation, for individuals and groups, but only with meeting context such as function and roles. this should not be judged prematurely without further insight into the meeting's context (function, role of attendees)(§5, p. 7)
Profiling needs careful ethical and privacy safeguards. Labelling behaviours can harm individuals. linking behaviours such competitiveness or domination with race or gender should be avoided(§5, p. 7)
With in-room speaker attribution, the analysis could be extended to hybrid meetings to measure the impact of being remote or local. it may be possible to measure the impact of being remote or local in a hybrid meeting(§5, p. 7)
Limitations
Results are promising but initial, from a small dataset that needs validation with a larger sample. (§7, p. 7)
Speech-to-text and transcript timing constrain accuracy. Latency makes very small overlaps and gaps indeterminate.
Other telemetry, such as mute/unmute, reactions, raised hands and meeting chat, was not used and could broaden understanding of turn-taking. application telemetry such as mute/unmute, reactions, raise hands, and, in particular, the use of the meeting's text chat(§7, p. 7)
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Concepts
Cooperative overlap
Talk over another speaker that supports them, such as backchannels and acknowledgement tokens, rather than taking the floor. provide attention, understanding, or agreement, rather than substantive content(§2.1, p. 2)
Competitive overlap
The contrast with cooperative overlap, as defined in the conversation-analysis literature: Competitive overlaps are those in which listeners use various ways of taking the floor from current speakers(§2.1, p. 2)
Overtake
A change of speaker. The paper's focus is the competitive kind: competitive overtakes (changes of speakers that happen with an overlap)(§1, p. 1)
Eyes-off analysis
A privacy safeguard: transcripts were processed automatically for timing and speaker data only. The researchers had no access to the transcript content(§3.1, p. 3)
Figures
Figure 3: Turn-taking behaviour in a Meeting Series (ID=4) From the paper, Fig. 3, p. 6.Figure 1: Patterns 5: Isolated overlap; 4: Overtake with overlap; 6: repeated overlap; 7: overlap at the end of turn From the paper, Fig. 1, p. 4.
How to cite
Eleni Margariti, Sean Rintel, Brendan Murphy, and Abigail Sellen. 2022. Automated mapping of competitive and collaborative overlapping talk in video meetings. CHI EA 2022. https://doi.org/10.1145/3491101.3519612
This brief was prepared with AI assistance and published by Sean Rintel. It is not the authors' published text. Page numbers refer to this PDF.
BibTeX
@inproceedings{margariti2022automated,
author = {Margariti, Eleni and Rintel, Sean and Murphy, Brendan and Sellen, Abigail},
title = {Automated mapping of competitive and collaborative overlapping talk in video meetings},
organization = {ACM},
booktitle = {CHI EA 2022},
year = {2022},
month = {April},
url = {https://doi.org/10.1145/3491101.3519612},
note = {CHI ’22 Extended Abstracts},
doi = {10.1145/3491101.3519612},
}